Most students had taken off but Kristin had stayed on campus. I don't think she went back to her dorm at all. More than two decades later, Chris Lambert, a podcaster who was investigating Kristin's disappearance, tracked down and interviewed Mary Lassiter. Jonathan Vigliotti: There was a lot of evidence that could have been gathered, that wasn't. The Kristin Smart disappearance: After 26 years, Paul Flores is convicted of murder. PAUL FLORES: On the advice of my attorney, I refuse to answer that question based on the fifth amendment of the United States Constitution. James Murphy: I'd love to do anything to end their suffering. We just, "do you know anything about it". Copyright 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. All rights reserved. But Flores basketball friends told investigators that he already had the black eye when he showed up for the game. After the four students had walked about halfway back to the dorms, Paul Flores told Davis and Anderson, Dont worry I got her, Ill take her from here, according to prosecutors. Chris Lambert: They just have never given up and are never going to give up on their daughter. At a Halloween party back in 1995before Smart had gone missingFlores allegedly grabbed Sarahs crotch on the dance floor. It's fine. Includes Address (7) Phone (7) Email (2) See Results. Chris Lambert: A young couple moves into it with their kid. He promised the Smarts that solving Kristin's case would be a priority. Paul Flores, then also a 19-year-old freshman, had . Two days after Kristin Smart vanished, Paul Flores went to the Arroyo Grande Police Department because of an outstanding DUI warrant. He was the last person seen with her. That's when the campus police finally handed the investigation over to The San Luis Obispo Sheriff's Office but they did not find Kristin. Balloons wrap around the Kristin Smart billboard in Arroyo Grande after the arrest of Paul and Ruben Flores in April 2021. Chris Lambert: Paul worked with a number of women that he made incredibly uncomfortable girls who he tried to make a pass at sexually, girls that he tried to force to kiss him. / CBS News. He says "no.". He invoked the Fifth Amendment 27 times. But a massive search did not happen until she'd been gone for more than a month. Over the years, while Stan Smart hiked every trail around California's Central Coast in hopes of finding Kristin's remains, Denise relentlessly pushed law enforcement to do more. I've got her. Often, Sarah would be at one party or another and there was Flores. DAN DOW [press conference]: But the allegation that he was committing or attempting to commit a rape when he killed her, is the basis for which we are able to file first-degree felony murder charges. "YOUR OWN BACKYARD" PODCAST: EPISODE 1: It's a cold and cloudy winter afternoon in San Luis Obispo and I'm retracing missing Cal Poly student Kristin Smart's last known steps. It is believed she is deceased, but there is no evidence of what happened to her after Paul Flores left her. They were soon joined by another partygoer, Paul Flores. A woman nearby screamed at Flores to get off her and threatened to call the cops, she said. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. The detective noticed was Paul was nervous and his heart was beating out of his chest. Jonathan Vigliotti: There was a lot of focus on how Kristin was drinking what sounded a lot like victim shaming. Back in San Luis Obispo, the Smarts, feeling ignored by the sheriff's office, continued a relentless campaign to get them to do more to find their daughter. They took off running, Jane said. More critical evidence was seized when investigators used ground-penetratingly radar that found a grave where Smarts body was once buried in the Flores familys backyard, according to prosecutors. Paul Flores was the last person seen with Kristin Smart before she vanished in 1996. Paul Flores was a constant presence during Sarahs time at Cal Poly, where she transferred in as a sophomore back in 1996, after Smarts disappearance shook the school and the community. But 22 years later, when he couldn't find any recent stories about the case, he decided to do something. The moment still haunts her. The Smart family. How could she have gone out of town? Kristin did not have a purse, money, her I.D. Chris Lambert: They did a significant amount of digging underneath the house. She saw Paul taking Kristin toward his dorm to the left, the prosecutor said. His parents have always denied knowing anything about Kristin's disappearance and insist their son was not involved. Jane said she took Flores up on carpool offers to and from high school whenever she would be walking solo from her mothers home in Arroyo Grande, California. One of Kristins closest college friends, Steve Fleming, noticed that Paul Flores would linger around Smarts dorm hall even though he didnt live there. Classes were difficult, she was trying to fit in, and she missed her family. Jonathan Vigliotti: They thought she was off possibly having fun. Wednesday morning, KSBY crews witnessed sheriff's deputies and FBI investigators at the Arroyo Grande home of Susan Flores, the mother of the only person-of-interest in the case, Paul. But Paul Flores was never charged with any of these incidents. James Murphy: they let the dog in, the dog makes a beeline to the bed of Paul Flores. She has not been charged with any crimes in connection with the case. So had Margarita Campos, who lived in the next room in Muir Hall. By the time they called the Cal Poly campus police, Kristin had been missing for more than 48 hours. Any evidence that might have been there was long gone. . James Murphy: So why would Susan Flores, her boyfriend, and Ruben Flores be up all night long working under that deck. When asked about how he got the injury Flores told three different stories. Acerca; Prensa; They had become close friends despite their differences. And there were those nonstop tales of Flores being touchy-feely with her friends. He was seeing someone on the side who he called his friend, she said. Four months later, while attempting to reconcile, Susan rented out her house in Arroyo Grande. There's no question about it. Lives in: Arroyo Grande CA. The woman, whom well call Jane, believes she was roofied, raped, and discarded by Paul Flores and his nameless friend when she was a 15-year-old high-school sophomore in 1994. During a camping trip in Fresno, California, in the early 1990s, Floress female cousins playfully swiped and hid his wallet while walking en route to a liquor store to purchase slush puppies. Her younger sister Lindsey says their mother urged Kristin to go there. PODCAST EPISODE 1: Kristin broke down begging her mother to let her drop out and go somewhere else. After seizing an old car, digging in the back yard and taking evidence San Luis Obispo County sheriff deputies concluded their search of an Arroyo Grande home related to the 1996 disappearance of Kristin Smart. D.A. They were after Paul Flores for an outstanding DUI warrant. They might have found evidence in those vehicles. She was pushing herself out of her comfort zone. Two days after her daughter went missing, Denise Smart got a call from Cal Poly's campus police. A student named Paul Flores, Susan's son, volunteered to take her back. James Murphy: Paul Flores had a reputation amongst the girls that knew him at Cal Poly as being a creeper that he was always trying to hit on women. School was over, so campus police found an empty room that had been sanitized by the university's cleaning crew. Just weeks later, Kristin's frustrated parents contacted James Murphy, a local civil attorney. And while they did not rush to investigate Flores, Kristin's family says campus police were very quick to judge her. Chris Lambert: He told those friends he just woke up with the black eye. In the months after Kristin's disappearance, one truck was traded in and the other was reported stolen. Denise Pearce: The phone call never comes. This is about the facts. He'd go anywhere. View the profiles of people named Ermelinda Thomas. Flores said he suffered the black eye during a basketball game he played with friends in Arroyo Grande on Monday. Murphy immediately filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Flores in civil court. He apparently would tag along with a sloshed friend, crashing off-campus parties together wherever she was. Paul Flores escorted Smart back to her dorm after an off-campus party. And had law enforcement drilled a handful of holes in Floress mothers backyard to search for evidence that Smart might be buried there, perhaps Floress alleged serial sexual assaults would have been prevented. Chris Lambert: I think that might have been the biggest misstep that investigators have made to this day. Lambert began looking into what happened to Kristin, collecting articles and documents, chasing down leads and tracking down anyone with information. It is every parent's worst nightmare. It wasn't until Kristin's roommate returned to their dorm room, that Margarita realized Kristin never came home. As she told Chris Lambert, "In the master bedroom, I'm hearing this 'beep beep' every night at 4:20, or 4:20 in the morning." Susan Flores, an Arroyo Grande resident whose son Paul is the prime suspect in Smart's disappearance, broke her silence after new searches in the haunting case last week. Five months after Kristin Smart disappeared, Paul Flores was brought before a grand jury but no charges were ever filed. But it's Susan Flores's concrete backyard that initially received a lot of attention. James Murphy: Having a black eye doesn't make you guilty of anything but if the person you were with disappeared from the planet that's physical evidence. Murphy and his wife, Garin Sinclair, agreed to take the case pro bono promising to go after Paul Flores and put pressure on the sheriff's office. Margarita soon decided she'd had enough. San Luis Obispo County. It has been called Dr. Seuss Day because of this. I remember being home watching the news about Kristin Smart and there goes Paul, she recalled. Flores only made one phone call the weekend Smart disappeared, according to prosecutors. In October 2022, Paul. James Murphy: To see them in custody was a feeling of great joy for me. Remember, Flores's room had been emptied and thoroughly cleaned. PODCAST EPISODE 2 | WOMAN #1: I wasn't surprised, but there's also that shock value of kind of "oh my god, I knew it! I told him, You never do this again! But remarkably, the same thing happened with three more dogs. But cadaver dogs told a different story. He would tiptoe around everything. And according to that probation report, "dozens of women have recounted Paul Flores' sexual assaults and predatory behavior that document his 25 years as a serial rapist." D.A. By the time they inspected Flores's room, Kristin had been gone for 16 days. Because of the statute of limitations, Dow says, Paul Flores can't be charged with rape. She was she was frantic I don't understand this, you know? Somos la comunidad inmobiliaria ms grande de Mxico que conecta de forma gratuita a quienes ofrecen y buscan cualquier tipo de propiedad. So, when they were invited to a party that Friday night, Kristin was excited to go. Chris Lambert: I brought them a number of witnesses that they were very interested in. James Murphy: If it was, in fact, a piece of jewelry that matched Kristin's jewelry, it would have been blockbuster evidence. It sounded like a digital watch alarm, but Lassiter couldn't find a watch anywhere outside. And she's like, "please come with me. Around 2 a.m., party-goer Tim Davis told Smart that she could not spend the night passed out on the party houses front lawn because it was too cold. Back then, Jane remembered Flores pulling up to her on multiple occasions behind the wheel of a green pickup truck. Ian Parkinson: I committed to them that I was going to go back to the beginning and re-examine every piece of evidence that we had. In 2011, the Smarts hoped those boulders would become a little lighter when Ian Parkinson became the new sheriff of San Luis Obispo County. It's, like, she has nothing on her. How a tragic boating crash is connected to the family of Alex Murdaugh, Husband of woman murdered with an ax convicted 40 years after her death, Five deaths with a connection to Alex Murdaugh's family investigated, Florida man tries to use COVID-19 as a cover for murder. BOE-A-2023-5092 Orden JUS/181/2023, de 21 de febrero, por la que se aprueba la relacin provisional de personas admitidas y excluidas en el proceso selectivo para acceso libre, al Cuerpo de Gestin Procesal y Administrativa de la Administracin de Justicia, convocado por Orden JUS/1254/2022, de 7 de diciembre. She was saved by their male roommate, who barged in because of Lauras blood-curdling screams. But as Chris Lambert learned, campus police did not act right away. And they told Lambert they weren't surprised when they heard about Flores's connection to Kristin's disappearance. Margarita Campos: I mean, she was gone. Its a fib. Four months earlier, Kristin Smart, a freshman at California Polytechnic State University better known as Cal Poly had gone to a party on Friday, May 24 the start of the Memorial Day weekend. They have not been able to proceed with the civil case while there was an ongoing criminal investigation, but that didn't stop them from following every lead and preparing for an eventual trial. Like so many freshmen, Kristin struggled. so eventually he unlocked you know, the apartment door, and I left. But you have to understand, she was a really independent free spirit. He was writing your name like 150 times on a piece of paper and he kept circling it., High school boys are weird anyway, Jane thought at the time. Dave Minsky,. Ann-Marie Christian: became friends with Kristin in elementary school. Lawyers representing Paul Flores, a man found guilty last year of murdering Kristin Smart in San Luis Obispo in 1996, filed motions last week to dismiss the jury verdict and for a new trial. Jonathan Vigliotti: Is there any doubt in your mind that Paul Flores is responsible for the disappearance of Kristin Smart? By the end of the evening she was found passed out on the lawn next door and needed help to get back to the dorm. AKA: Susan Flores, Sue P Flores. That's been our goal. Some of those women who did not want their real names used told Lambert about their encounters with him. His podcast, "Your Own Backyard," has become a big hit attracting millions of listeners eager to hear every detail surrounding this unsolved case. [emotional] I will go outside at nighttime and I'll look up at the full moon and I'll think that that kid's buried somewhere real close. RUBEN FLORES: [long pause] We never asked that question. Not at all. Flores attempted to kiss Anderson before she walked away around 2:30 a.m. She refused his advances because she was creeped out, Peuvrelle said. But perhaps Mary Lassiter's most disturbing story was about being awakened very early in the morning by a beeping sound coming from the backyard. Once Jane was admitted her story seemed to fall on deaf ears. Then, in 2011, Ian Parkinson was elected sheriff. By the time Cal Poly police began investigating, Kristin had been gone for four days. I would turn around and he would be right there lurking, the woman, referred to here by a pseudonym, said. Garin Sinclair: He never once turned to the Smart family and said, hey, we have an earring, we'd like to show it to you to see if it matches any of your daughter's jewelry. She regretfully denounced them as cruel rumors at the time. The Lassisters say soon after, strange postcards began showing up in their mailbox. He grabbed me down there and while Im yelling at him my girlfriend threw a piece of gum at his face and he pushes her down., At this point every male at the party joined in to jump Flores, who fled, she said, adding, Boom, he disappeared., That same year, Sarah said, Flores pursued her again at a friends birthday party. View Details. She left them only after he promised to take Kristin back to her dorm. Hes on top of me. There was no reaction until the dog reached Paul Flores's room. And yes, we believe it's linked to Kristin. That would be Susan Flores, the owner of the home where Flores is suspected to have buried Smart. to find the next challenge. Chris Lambert's podcast,"Your Own Backyard," has become a big hit attracting millions of listeners eager to hear every detail surrounding this unsolved case of Kriistin Smart. Guardar . I called my mom. Denise Pearce: She was becoming more and more alarmed, you know? The National Read Across America Day takes place every year on March 2, Geisels birthday. PODCAST EPISODE 4: At 8 a.m. on June 19th, 2000, a team of sheriff's investigators knocks on the front door of Susan Flores's East Branch Street home. Jonathan Vigliotti: You look at Kristin Smart every day. Related to: Ruben R Flores, Ermelinda M Thomas, Paul R Flores, Rachel H Flores, Ruben Flores. In his complaint, Murphy alleges, along with Ruben, there were two other unnamed individuals. It was never like Hey you want to go hookup? He never made advances and he would just say Hi at school.. Margarita Campos: But when we got to the house it was pretty dead too, it was really -- it was like a couple of roommates hanging out playing video games And Kristin was, like oh gosh, there has to be something better than this. So, I said, "you better turn some lights on right now and let me out or I'm going to scream." But Murphy says there were other incidents that should have raised alarm bells about him with law enforcement from the very beginning. I guess you can call it little white lies, Flores told detectives. Margarita Campos: I was a little bit more introverted and inhibited and she was like, "no, we have to go out and we have to go like live life." And there are more horrifying allegations about what may have happened to Kristin after she was last seen with Paul Flores. SUSAN FLORES: [Long pause, grabs water bottle] Of course not. Flores is charged with murdering Smart as he attempted to rape her in his dorm room. Instead, on Monday, May 27, Denise Pearce says the Smarts got a call from Cal Poly's campus police asking if Kristin was with them. PODCAST | EPISODE 1: At least once a day I asked myself what are you doing? San Luis Obispo County sheriff's officials gather under a coroner's tent in the backyard of Ruben Flores' house in the 700 block of White Court in Arroyo Grande on April 13. Margarita Campos: She was absolutely sober when I left her. Other names that Ermelinda uses includes Ermelinda M Macarthur, Ermelinda M Flores, Ermelinda M Mac Arthur, Ermelinda Flores and Ermelinda M Thomas. I drank this drink and I dont know what it was but let me tell you something the next thing you know I was passed out, Jane said. I remember thinking: If my moms not home Im going to die right here.. Chris Lambert: There was a man climbing her trellis and trying to get inside her balcony, very intoxicated and refusing to leave. Denise Pearce | Longtime family friend: Things were gonna get better and, you know, and and they did. D.A. Resides in Blue Bell, PA. Stop! and then it became Stop!!!!!. Paul Flores lives in San Pedro, CA; previous city include Arroyo Grande CA. Lambert says Kristin could not stand on her own, so fellow student Cheryl Anderson who was also at the party began helping her back to campus. As of this date, Paul is single. The next morning, Margarita waited to hear from Kristin. Lassiter told Lambert the earring she found matched the necklace Kristin was wearing on one of the "Missing Cal Poly Student" billboards. DAN DOW [press conference]: We have evidence that we do believe there are other people that are not yet identified that have had some kind of a criminal act perpetrated on them by Mr. Flores. And I was screaming. A hundred percent that was happening. Have a good day, he said. When they showed up, it was Paul Flores. Lived In Dublin CA, King Of Prussia PA, Norristown PA. Related To Cooper Flores. But while campus police weren't doing much, Kristin's parents were doing whatever they could to find their daughter. By this point Sarahs ex-boyfriend arrived and he and his friends scared Flores and his pal, trying to make sure they never showed their faces again. Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. Lindsey Smart Stewart: She definitely, like, took advantage of life, seized the day she was super ambitious and was determined you know, to find the next adventure. Chris Lambert spoke with some women who knew Flores back then. Jonathan Vigliotti: How did you know she hadn't been back? "48 Hours" looks back to their arrests and how the saga began. Empresa. The Kristin Smart Scholarship has been established by her family to help other college bound women pursue their dreams. SHERIFF IAN PARKINSON [to reporters]: It's been a puzzle and it's a very slow process to find each of those little pieces some of that information came to light through the podcast many of you are familiar with. San Luis Obispo County. Authorities arrested Ruben Flores after San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's deputies served a search warrant at his Arroyo Grande home. They also did not focus on Paul Flores immediately, waiting six days to formally interview him. Chris Lambert: Kristin became incredibly intoxicated, whether she was drugged or whether she just had a lot to drink in a short amount of time She ends up passed out on the lawn next door. Ruben lived here with his wife, Susan, and their children, Ermelinda and Paul. At the time, they did not know about a missing college student. Margarita Campos: I'll never forget her shadow against the building, this apartment complex, just standing like kind of cross-armed with the long leg And she was just kind of like looking at me like, [sighs] you're really walking away now, like you're really, you're leaving? Paul Flores may have wanted a fresh start in Southern California, but Chris Lambert says, he could not seem to break old habits. In June of 1996, the San Luis Obispo County Sheriffs Office brought in four cadaver dogs to sniff dorms on campus. Please enter valid email address to continue. No charges were filed, but Lambert discovered Flores's troubles started at a young age. The family attorney refused to comment when reached by The Daily Beast. I also brought them witnesses that they had no interest in whatsoever. First published on November 28, 2020 / 11:10 PM. Thats when everyone got involved, she said. Authorities made clear that they plan to use Flores' alleged predatory behavior against him. ), A sheriff offices spokesman said his agency couldnt say if investigators working Smarts cold case had been made aware or not of the new alleged victims, citing refusal to comment on an open and active investigation.. Flores and Smart were both 19-year-old freshmen Cal Poly students who attended the same party the night she vanished, on May 25, 1996. Flores said he suffered the black eye during a basketball game he played with friends in Arroyo Grande on Monday. They took in soil, I assume, for some kind of analysis. Jonathan Vigliotti: And that phone call never comes. James Murphy: Every day. He was required to wear an electronic ankle bracelet. When Lambert later told Kristin's mother, Denise, about those early morning beeping sounds in Susan Flores's backyard, he said her reaction was "shock we just kind of stared at each other for a good long time I think it took a while to settle in, that this could potentially be huge." James Murphy: And it says wrongful death and then I put murder. Monterey County Weekly photographer Daniel Dreifuss shot these photos during yesterday's opening statements.#KristinSmart pic.twitter.com/Qlanj3fKK6. Facts will show law enforcement was aware that they did not have a case. Sheriff Ian Parkinson was able to confirm that forensic physical evidence that authorities believe is linked to Kristin was located at, at least two homes. Clockwise from left, Kristin, Denise, Stan, Matt and Lindsey. Nineteen-year-old Kristin Smart disappeared Memorial Day weekend of 1996. Flores spit that he would rape her, she said. Lindsey Smart Stewart: "You should go to Cal Poly. The charming blue house with the picket fence on East Branch Street seemed perfect. Paul Flores did not have a car on campus, so Murphy surmises he had to have had help. But I've seen it. Chris Lambert: So, if you believe Paul's story, he goes into his dorm room here. He called his father at 9:47 a.m. on Sunday, May 26, 1996. James Murphy: An eyewitness actually documented the fact that throughout the night that there was activity in the area of the underside of that deck. I would hear many of my friends tell me Oh he grabbed my butt but I never believed them, Laura said. Chris Lambert told Jonathan Vigliotti, "It drove [Mary Lassiter] crazy and she went out there many times in the middle of the night to try to find it with sticks, sticking down into the planter boxes down in the soil." Chris Lambert says, two days after that, when Flores was interviewed by campus police, they asked how he got his black eye as well as scratches on his hands and knees. Smart was last seen with Flores's son Paul. To declare to the public if you stay quiet, you will get away with this. Investigators could have excavated the yard, but their decision not to was a crushing blow for the Smart family. suddenly major pieces of evidence came forward. A judge on March 30 ruled that the trial would be moved out of San Luis . Flores replies that he was just fibbing. I dont know of any lying Ive done. Margarita Campos: I was expecting her to knock on my door and be, like, "Oh, Margarita, you missed a rager. The two girls walked to an area off campus where there were fraternities, sororities and residential housing for students. The murder trial began on Monday with opening statements from prosecutors and Flores defense attorney. CBS News correspondent Jonathan Vigliotti tracked Flores down to try and get some answers. 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